Fukushima Watch

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  1. Onepoint272

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    Still Report dated February 27, 2017
     
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    https://www.geek.com/culture/radioactive-wild-boars-are-taking-over-these-japanese-towns-1692232/

    A website "geek.com" with horrible grammatical errors. I can't even.

    Note that they are trying to say the places are unsafe for living things, while boars are living there. Here's a chance to do some voluntary animal testing.

    The last paragraph is cringeworthy. First you've got the residents being forced to move back home or lose it. Then you've got the author being really hopeful, and wanting the people to go back home too, whereas in the whole article (albeit it's only 4 paragraphs) they were trying to make a point that the place was dangerous?
     
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    Reactor units 1, 2, and 3 completely melted down. Unit 5 was shut down at the time of the earth quake/tsunami but for some reason it blew up too from hydrogen release. The spent fuel in that reactor did not melt down fortunately because the cesium-137 content is 14,000 times greater than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. If that gets released into the environment it would toast Tokyo. So, they continue to pour tons and tons of water to keep it cool. So far they are building tanks to store the spent water to keep it from being released into the environment but they are going to run out of room for tanks shortly. But this cooling will have to go on for decades. Overall this accident will take centuries to deal with.

    If you live in Alaska or the Western US, you received a fair amount of Cesium-137 fallout but the whole world received some contamination. The future of the Pacific Ocean? Forget about it and don't eat the fish (tuna, salmon, halibut, king crab, etc.). I'm seriously considering not eating anything grown in California, Oregon and Washington like fruits and vegetables and especially not California milk products (cheese)

    Everyone needs to understand that although this accident started 6 years ago, it is an ongoing accident that won't be resolved for centuries.

     
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    Post Fukishima, the Obama administration rolled back EPA water quality standards that increased allowable radiation levels in water from 10 to millions of times greater depending on the particular isotope. Once ingested, cesium134 and 137 reside in muscle tissue...the heart....health care problem solved.

    Think your food is being adequately tested for radioactive isotopes? Ha, enjoy your tuna-fish sandwich.

     
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    Still not eating Tuna Fish

     
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    Japan will have to dump radioactive water into Pacific
    Tue 10 Sep 2019 03.02 EDT

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/10/fukushima-japan-will-have-to-dump-radioactive-water-into-pacific-minister-says


    More than 1 million tonnes of contaminated water has accumulated at the plant since it was struck by a tsunami in March 2011, triggering a triple meltdown that forced the evacuation of tens of thousands of residents.

    Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) has struggled to deal with the buildup of groundwater, which becomes contaminated when it mixes with water used to prevent the three damaged reactor cores from melting.

    Tepco has attempted to remove most radionuclides from the excess water, but the technology does not exist to rid the water of tritium, a radioactive isotope of hydrogen. Coastal nuclear plants commonly dump water that contains tritium into the ocean. It occurs in minute amounts in nature.

    Tepco admitted last year that the water in its tanks still contained contaminants beside tritium.

    Currently, more than 1m tonnes of contaminated water is held in almost 1,000 tanks at the Fukushima Daiichi site, but the utility has warned that it will run out of tank space by the summer of 2022.

    “The only option will be to drain it into the sea and dilute it,” Yoshiaki Harada told a news briefing in Tokyo on Tuesday. No decision on how to dispose of the water will be made until the government has received a report from a panel of experts. Other options include vaporising the liquid or storing it on land for an extended period.

    One recent study by Hiroshi Miyano, who heads a committee studying the decommissioning of Fukushima Daiichi at the Atomic Energy Society of Japan, said it could take 17 years to discharge the treated water after it has been diluted to reduce radioactive substances to levels that meet the plant’s safety standards.

    Any decision to dispose of the waste water into the sea would anger local fishermen, who have spent the past eight years rebuilding their industry.

    Nearby South Korea has also voiced concern over the impact it would have on the reputation of its own seafood.

    Last month, Seoul summoned a senior Japanese embassy official to explain how Fukushima Daiichi’s waste water would be dealt with.

    Ties between the north-east Asian nations are already at a low ebb following a compensation dispute over Koreans forced to work in Japanese factories during the second world war.

    The government spent 34.5bn yen (£260m) to build a frozen underground wall to prevent groundwater reaching the three damaged reactor buildings. The wall, however, has succeeded only in reducing the flow of groundwater from about 500 tonnes a day to about 100 tonnes a day.

    Japan has come under renewed pressure to address the contaminated water problem before Tokyo hosts the Olympics and Paralympics next summer.

    Six years ago during the city’s bid for the games, the prime minister, Shinzo Abe, assured the international community that the situation was “under control”.
     
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    Many folks here in the states were using PI immediately after the original meltdown, fearing that particulate matter would be carried on the winds all over the globe.
    https://www.self.com/story/potassium-iodide-nuclear-attack
     
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    Nice follow up ADA. It was only a matter of time before they ran out of room to build more tanks to hold that radioactive groundwater. Dumping it was always the plan. In fact it's highly likely they've already been shipping to and dumping waste in the Antarctic ocean. But now all the hoopla is over, the public has forgotten, but I'm so relieved that Abe says they have it "under control"....yeah, bull schidt.
     
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    Just eat more miso soup!

    Radioprotective effects of miso (fermented soy bean paste) against radiation in B6C3F1 mice: increased small intestinal crypt survival, crypt lengths and prolongation of average time to death.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11833659
     
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    Miso = fermented soy paste.:p How about fermented barley and rice? They should test beer.
     
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    Combination of both?....
     
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    News today that Japan has filled up all their available tanks and are going to dump into the ocean, so China has banned all seafood imports from Japan.

    There are many radioactive isotopes in this water, one of them is tritium. This waste water currently measures 193 becquerels/L of tritium. Now here's the funny part: people just hear that the WHO allows 10,000 becquerels/L so this waste water must be safe. But this is above the safe limit allowed by Norway (only 100 becquerels/L there), it is near the current safe limit allowed by the US (740 becquerels/L), although I am trying to find what the limit was before Obama raised it to allow Fukushima's water to pass. @Onepoint272 post implies it could have been 10 to a million times lower, i.e. 74 becquerels/L or less, in line with Norway. It should be no surprise that Japan says the safe limit is 60,000 (LOL) becquerels/L, as they desperately need to dump this water. So, who you gonna believe Norway, or Japan, or the WHO? How can safety standards be so wildly different? Sad that even science has moving goalposts.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium#Regulatory_limits
     
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