The Long Term Investor

Discussion in 'Investing' started by WXYZ, Oct 2, 2018.

  1. roadtonowhere08

    roadtonowhere08 Well-Known Member

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    Oh don't get me wrong! I am with you all the way.

    In a world of Caveat Emptor, there are still those who look to others they do not even know for some sort of direction. It's not the smart thing to do, but it will still happen. And for our dear basement dweller, it's not what you say but how you say it. And if you are positively passionately batshit crazy about the shit you are shoveling, there will probably be takers. And that is sad.

    Caveat Emptor. Especially toward someone who cannot figure out how to screenshot his own broker account performance. Fuckin' moron.
     
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  2. Rustic1

    Rustic1 Well-Known Member

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    Does this mean we don't have any daily gains to cheer about? :lauging:


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    :D

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  3. TomB16

    TomB16 Well-Known Member

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    If you want to say something moronic, have the balls to take responsibility for it. Don't attempt to attribute it to someone else.

    One of my companies does not DRIP and I have not purchased a share in several years. It's well over double what I paid for it. I don't see wisdom in selling it due to a correction of a few cents or even a dollar.

    Doesn't that kind of short term thinking wear thin? Does there not come a time when you are emotionally exhausted?

    Speaking of gloating, I'm up quite a bit today. This is something I also don't care about because I have no intention of selling anything for a long time. But, perhaps I should weaponize this piece of irrelevance to criticize and belittle other people.
     
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  4. TomB16

    TomB16 Well-Known Member

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    I will be away from this thread for 8 weeks, starting in early June. So will Emmett.

    We're going on a sex junket to Thailand. We have 8 weeks so hopefully there will be some time left at the end to do some other people.
     
  5. Rustic1

    Rustic1 Well-Known Member

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    Might want to carry zuckthecuck and the Asian cuisine. To road to Bancok can be a little bumpy at times. :lauging:
     
  6. roadtonowhere08

    roadtonowhere08 Well-Known Member

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    Can't even spell the city right. Must be the syphilis.
     
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  7. WXYZ

    WXYZ Well-Known Member

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    Well just looked at the old account for today. Certainly down as is most everyone today that invests in stocks or funds. Plus got beat by the SP500 by .63%. Red across the board....as expected. I am very curious if we will get a BUMP tomorrow....I am sure we will at some point in the day....but....will it hold till the close?
     
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  8. Jwalker

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    I don’t know how anyone has time for anything besides long term investing unless you are a professional, retired, or living off the stimmy checks. In my free time, of which I don’t have a lot, the last thing I want to do is spend my time doing technical analysis. Talk about boring... i like to track my NW over time including 401k, house and IRAs because i am looking at the long term horizon of paying off a house and retiring. Obviously, I don’t like to see my portfolio drop 2% in a day but I would rather just ride the wave and be confident that someday I will land on the shore. You should begin with the end in mind.

    Anyways, that’s just my two cents. Back to building my model rocket and work.
     
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  9. WXYZ

    WXYZ Well-Known Member

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    I see that this news was referenced earlier in a post.

    Bitcoin, Dogecoin sink after Elon Musk walks back Tesla's support for crypto transactions

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitc...-digital-coin-for-transactions-223139231.html

    Musk is a smart guy....I am not sure I buy this excuse about the environmental impact of Bitcoin mining. He is also very smart when it comes to using the media. My view....there is more to this story than what is being said.
     
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  10. WXYZ

    WXYZ Well-Known Member

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    To comment on the question raised much earlier in the day about NET WORTH. As I said I do like to keep somewhat up to date on where I am. It only takes about 30 seconds to calculate in my head since I am aware of the value of any general category of asset that I own at any time.

    There is one very good reason for people to be aware of how they stand with their assets......especially in my age range. With the new possible tax laws on estates and the potential that the exemption will be lowered to as low as about $3MILLION.....there will be many people that will suddenly be in the range where they WILL potentially be subject to ESTATE TAXES. You BETTER be aware of your net worth....and if necessary.....do some estate planing.
     
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  11. WXYZ

    WXYZ Well-Known Member

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    You really building a model rocket Jwalker? I have never built any...but I have a friend that has built many of them....some pretty big....where they had to get various clearances to launch. I have done three or four launches with him. A great hobby for adults and the kids love it.
     
  12. WXYZ

    WXYZ Well-Known Member

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    There is a lot of fear mongering in the markets right now. I tend to think that this little article is correct.

    Markets Dont Mind QE Tapers
    There is still no indication central banks’ tapering quantitative easing bond buying is negative for markets.

    https://www.fisherinvestments.com/en-us/marketminder/markets-dont-mind-qe-tapers

    (BOLD is my opinion OR what I consider important content)

    "After significant will-they-or-won’t-they speculation among onlookers, the Bank of Canada (BoC) slowed its long-term bond purchases—or, tapered its quantitative easing (QE) program—on April 21. Nothing untoward happened. Its economy and markets haven’t tanked. Yields haven’t soared. The UK’s Bank of England (BoE) followed suit last Thursday. While it has only been a couple of days since, there has been no identifiable market impact. With two major global central banks dialing back QE, more chatter over the timing of an eventual Fed taper—and its effects—is probably coming soon. Tune it down. Central bank decisions can’t be forecast, and available evidence shows tapering isn’t negative.

    Off the bat, attempts to predict Fed and other central bank moves are pointless. In the US, it isn’t 100% clear who will make those decisions, considering the rotating cast of Fed heads and committee voters. For example, speculation is rife over whether President Joe Biden will reappoint current Fed head Jerome Powell when his term expires next February—if he still wants the job. But even if the Fed folks don’t change, central bankers—being human—can change their minds on their own accord without any preset rationale. The Fed and BoE defied their own forward guidance multiple times over the past decade. Former Fed head Ben Bernanke made a big show of providing “numerical thresholds” for conducting monetary policy in 2012, saying a 6.5% unemployment rate would trigger hike rates, only for his successor, now Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, to scrap it when she took the reins in 2014. Then that year, when Yellen (seemingly) clarified the Fed would hike rates six months after QE’s end, that didn’t happen either. The “dot plot” of Fed forecasts, published quarterly, is no more reliable a guide.

    More importantly for investors, divining central banks’ will is unnecessary—there is no evidence tapering QE is a game changer for markets. In the few weeks since the BoC reduced weekly bond buying to C$3 billion from C$4 billion, and the few days the BoE dropped its weekly purchases to £3.4 billion from £4.4 billion, markets have taken tapering in stride. Both the MSCI Canada and UK Indexes have made new highs since their central banks’ announcements. Meanwhile, 10-year Canada and UK government yields are practically unchanged. While we wouldn’t read too much into short-term market moves, tapering so far has had no discernable effects.

    This shouldn’t shock anyone. While lots of people talk as if tapering was some kind of watershed moment in the last bull market, the evidence for this is lacking. From when Bernanke first introduced “taper” into investors’ lexicon on May 22, 2013, through its official announcement to actual tapering and QE’s eventual end on Halloween 2014, the S&P 500 rallied 24.1%. Although 10-year Treasury yields shot from 2.0% to 3.0% from May to September 2013, by October the next year they stood at 2.3%.[ii] Then, to follow the Fed’s decade-long monetary policy adventure to its conclusion, 2015’s rate hike didn’t stop the bull. Nor did further rate hikes and QE’s ever-so-gradual unwind starting 2017.

    The imperceptible impact of the Fed removing its extraordinary “support” measures isn’t surprising. QE has never worked as advertised. Because bond yields move inversely to prices, the Fed’s QE purchases worked to lower long-term interest rates, ostensibly to spur loan growth and, in turn, economic activity. But at best QE was ineffective doing so and at worst counterproductive. Banks borrow at short-term rates (e.g., what they pay depositors) to fund longer-term loans. The difference between the two is a proxy for banks’ loan profitability. When the Fed lowers long-term rates—while pinning short-term rates near zero—it shrinks that gap, which we don’t think increases banks’ propensity to lend. So while QE—then and now—has caused money supply to surge, that hasn’t translated into aggressive lending. Banks’ oceans of excess reserves suggest they have more cash than they know what to do with. Money that doesn’t circulate doesn’t do much good (or cause much inflation, for that matter).

    There is an underappreciated consequence we see from this though, which is worth keeping in mind. If central bank tapering becomes widespread globally, yield curves could steepen around the world, quickening loan growth. The overheating some now fear may become likelier. That said, it wouldn’t be overnight and it is premature to speculate about, in our view, with global yield curves remaining historically flat. Rather, this is just a reminder to always look where others don’t and question popular narratives nearly everyone thinks are true.

    MY COMMENT

    YES.....like inflation...I think all the fear mongering regarding "tapering".....is just that rumor and fear mongering. Noise and chaff to the average investor.

    This STUFF all reminds me of the TEMPEST IN A TEAPOT that surrounded the default of the WPPSS bonds in the late 1980's. The default was staved off for a long time...partly in response to the LITANY of doom and gloom that was SURE to follow any default. When it finally happened......the impact was NOTHING. Years of doom and gloom and fear mongering as to how it was going to impact the state of Washington, came down in the end to.....NOTHING.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/whoops.asp
     
  13. roadtonowhere08

    roadtonowhere08 Well-Known Member

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    Agree.

    Here is an article that states the power and value of Bitcoin is based off the energy used to mine it. I like the precious metals and human labor comparison. Rationalizing at its finest. :rolleyes2:

    https://moneyweek.com/investments/alternative-finance/bitcoin/602678/bitcoin-energy-consumption
     
  14. Trahn Thompson

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    Looks like musk is trying to market clean energy for crypto mining. It's like he has a copy of the playbook. High energy cost will bring telsa some free PR. Going to be an interesting Summer. Happy Investing!
     
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    Enjoyed the last couple of days with zuckiepoo and roadtoanywhere. :D

    Time to be more serious investment wise.

    Did a little shopping yesterday and P.M. this morning.

    PLTR. 18.77
    TSLA 597.54
    AAPL. 123.46

    Looking at a couple more with VOO being the main 1 in sight.

    CRYPTO I hold my main 4 that I have been in for a few months, fortunately those are still in the green.

    ETH,BTC,LTC,XRP

    On the stock side the plan is to focus on 6 core holdings and always keep CASH on the sidelines to make short term plays and/or fortify positions.

    Will sell covered weekly calls for extra income.

    :popcorn:
     
  17. zukodany

    zukodany Well-Known Member

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    HEY ASSHOLE
    The screenshot you posted is in the red

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  18. zukodany

    zukodany Well-Known Member

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    Hard to talk with all that dick in his mouth... either that or the intense butthurt of late

    thank god he still knows how to spell his stupid emojis
     
  19. zukodany

    zukodany Well-Known Member

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    hey ASSHOLE
    Nobody likes you here. Not one person. even all the users that you quoted that you follow call you out on your BS

    So yes come back for more... but PLEASE wipe the jizz off your keyboard before typing so we can follow your stupidity more clearly
     
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    zukodany Well-Known Member

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    The only take from this for me is that Musk has a tremendous influence on the markets all across the board. The guys a force to be reckoned with at this stage. Whether he pursues his crypto venture or not is not real key to his future success, but at this point it is obvious that it’s relevant to pretty much everyone else
     

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