Electric Vehicle Achievements who's leading

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    So whos leading with faster charge times and amazing range. I'll start as of today:

    Their first-generation battery can recharge in about 15 minutes and can deliver a range of 310 miles (500 km). The technology is already being implemented in @GAC_MOTOR Aion, an electric SUV, the Bloomberg report said
     
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    Samsung delivers 600-mile solid-state EV battery as it teases 9-minute charging and 20-year lifespan tech
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    Samsung solid-state battery (Image source: Marklines.com)
    Samsung has been shipping its solid-state battery with high energy density to electric vehicle makers, but warns that it will first land in more expensive models. It is also ready to deliver other promising battery technologies.
    Daniel Zlatev, Published 07/26/2024 ...
    E-Mobility


    Samsung took part in the SNE Battery Day 2024 expo in Seoul this week to demonstrate its new battery technologies. The first batches from its pilot solid-state battery line have been delivered to EV makers, and they've been testing the cells for about six months now.

    According to Samsung SDI's VP, automakers are interested in its solid-state battery packs because they are smaller, lighter, and much safer than what's in current electric cars. Apparently, they are also rather expensive to produce, since it warns that they will first go into the "super premium" EV segment of luxury electric cars that can cover more than 600 miles on a charge.

    Both Toyota and Samsung have vowed to begin mass solid-state battery production in 2027, and Toyota, too, advised that it will be installing them in premium electric cars under the Lexus brand first.

    Price was the main reason that the largest EV battery maker CATL initially scoffed at any mass solid-state battery production plans, saying that this can't happen before 2030. CATL has since reconsidered, though, and is now planning for 1% solid-state battery penetration rate in 2027, too.

    Besides solid-state battery commercialization with its proprietary mass production technology, Samsung wants to be competitive in the more affordable EV segment as well. It is developing cheaper LFP and cobalt-free batteries, as well as a dry electrode production method.

    To set its electric car batteries apart from the competition, Samsung will offer packs that can be charged in 9 minutes, as well as ultimately extend the lifespan of its batteries to 20 years.

    A 20-year endurance and the corresponding warranty seem to be an upcoming battery standard, as CATL and others have already announced such "million-mile" batteries.

    NIO and CATL are also working to promote a longer, 15-year battery warranty, in order to create a viable used EV market.

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    #17 Unverified BS 6 minutes ago
    Calling BS on this, no specifications, no references, no evidence. And a claim from a company who promised satellite connections in their 2024 phones, but lied? Yeah, click bait, false advertising, going to ban this site.
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    #16 Dave0091 4 hours ago

    When will smartphones have batteries that charge in 9 minutes with the same resource?


    We're seeing phones reach 50 percent charge in six minutes...takes four times that to charge from zero to 100. That's lightning fast with chargers accessible in couch and batteries lasting all day.

    I don't think the average consumer would pay much more for faster charging - I'd opt for the model that costs less and charges at today's speeds. EVs on the other hand? I won't consider one at the speeds and capacities on the market today.
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    #15 Uzair 4 hours ago
    Yet there phone batteries are crap.
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    #14 Christian Thompson 4 hours ago
    So each ev charging station will have its own nuclear power station out the back producing the giga watt outputs needed for so many 9 minute charges?
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    #13 JB 6 hours ago
    Also, performance at high/low Ambient Temperatures. 600 miles/8 min charge/20 year/by 2027 at a high level is a real and solid goal. It does not give a techie reader a real sense for the current progress other than that these manufacturers say they are on track.
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    #12 George 6 hours ago

    "Samsung delivers 600-mile solid-state EV battery..." That's as far as I read. Batteries don't have range - vehicles have range depending on the capacity of the batteries used.

    Titles like that just make it obvious that the author has no clue, so there's really no point in reading the article.


    Agreed.

    Generally batteries are rated by:
    - energy density per Kg
    - charge/discharge current
    - size and weight
    - Ah

    NOT in possible "mileage" or "range". :(
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    #11 CatGuy 6 hours ago
    What I really want to see, are these newer better battery packs retrofitable to existing vehicles on the road?
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    #10 Serj 6 hours ago
    I think that the charging station will set more powerful accumulators that will have enough power for 9min charging. for me, it's more interesting what the wires and connectors will use for this mega-power )
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    #9 Roy 8 hours ago
    One missing piece of information is what is the power rating of the charger needed to achieve a 9 minute charge. The UK street supply is 235KW, and a recent article elsewhere talked kf fast charging using a 350KW charger. This means that with the present street supply, it would be impossible to charge even a single car. I suspect yhat every country will have similar issues and so a short charge is a nice to have pipe dream. Consider this, at 350KWh, only 3 cars xan be charged per megawatt. If a generating site produces 1000MWh then only 3,000 can be charged at the same time - then think of how many cars your country has...... Finally, take fossil fuel stations out of the supply equation.
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    #8 A 14 hours ago

    When will smartphones have batteries that charge in 9 minutes with the same resource?


    One of the big issues for batteries fast charging is heat, which often times requires thermal management that is hard to fit into smartphones



    I would also like to see proper metrics such and KWH/KG. However, I believe there is an optimum ratio for battery size to vehicle size. To gain more range, you will need more volume of batteries. at a certain point, you will need to sacrifice passenger space, vehicle size, weight, or aerodynamics. the more batteries, the more weight. currently that ratio seems to be optimum for a 200+ to 300 mile range. yes the title of the article has been dumbed down and vague, but it gets the point across to the general masses that a more energy dense newer technology is on the horizon. what else to you expect for Click-Bait.


    Yes, wh/kg isn't the limiting factor these days, wh/l is. This battery is 900wh/l
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    #7 pOWERpLANTZ 14 hours ago
    I would also like to see proper metrics such and KWH/KG. However, I believe there is an optimum ratio for battery size to vehicle size. To gain more range, you will need more volume of batteries. at a certain point, you will need to sacrifice passenger space, vehicle size, weight, or aerodynamics. the more batteries, the more weight. currently that ratio seems to be optimum for a 200+ to 300 mile range. yes the title of the article has been dumbed down and vague, but it gets the point across to the general masses that a more energy dense newer technology is on the horizon. what else to you expect for Click-Bait.
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    #6 Ednumero 20 hours ago
    The core issue I see is range taking the place of more meaningful metrics like Wh/kg. I imagine fewer people would take issue if they saw sensationalist range figures reliably leading into more level-headed discussions on the actual tangible achievements of the cells.
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    #5 hugh mungus 21 hours ago

    "Samsung delivers 600-mile solid-state EV battery..." That's as far as I read. Batteries don't have range - vehicles have range depending on the capacity of the batteries used.

    Titles like that just make it obvious that the author has no clue, so there's really no point in reading the article.


    Do you have friends considering how pedantic you sound?
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    #4 BatteriesDontHaveRange 22 hours ago
    "Samsung delivers 600-mile solid-state EV battery..." That's as far as I read. Batteries don't have range - vehicles have range depending on the capacity of the batteries used.

    Titles like that just make it obvious that the author has no clue, so there's really no point in reading the article.
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    #3 Euan 22 hours ago
    Cost and price are just constructs. Manufacturers make special efforts to differentiate products in order to maximise profits. That's what is really going on here.
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    #2 Wayne piks 1 days 1 hours 38 minutes ago
    Nah, I remember what happened last time Samsung messed with batteries.
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    #1 NikoB 1 days 2 hours ago
    When will smartphones have batteries that charge in 9 minutes with the same resource?
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