INTC - Intel Corporation

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  1. roadtonowhere08

    roadtonowhere08 Well-Known Member

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    Intel is going to have to earn it back with CPUs. They have shredded their credibility, and AMD is eating their lunch. Gonna be a long uphill battle for them.
     
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    I share your point of view, RTN. Intel lost a lot of market share this gen but they lost way more mind share. People who didn't upgrade in the last year plan to buy AMD, when they do.

    Intel can come back, and I hope they do, but its a steep uphill climb.

    I believe it is very likely, Intel will end up in chapter 9 or 11 receivership. The government seems very likely to bail them out for national security reasons but I assume the fab will be split from the design side.

    I'm trying to figure out what would be made in Intel fabs. Not sure. Intel doesn't have a 3nm node. They struggled with their 7nm node and I don't think it is yielding well, even now. I'm not even sure they scaled it, much.

    If Intel get 18A online in time for Zen 6 in 2026, and they very well might, AMD could produce their cores on 18A and have TSMC do the IOD, NPU, GPU.

    At some point, TSMC will probably be forced to bring their 2nm node into the line cost wise, so they can sell it to companies other than Apple. That won't leave a lot for the rest of the industry.
     
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    TomB16 Well-Known Member

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    Its going to come down to Samsung.

    If Samsung can scale their 2nm node, Intel is toast. If Samsung can't, and their track record isn't good lately, Intel could benefit from the insane price model of TMSC's N2P node.
     
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    Rumors are that Intel will bring Nova Lake to market in 2026. That's a long, long time to not have a competitive product in the market.

    What's more, the top spec Nova Lake part will have 16 performance cores, 32 efficiency cores, and 4 low power cores. It will be a new socket. That's a lot of cores but we've seen that people ignore non-performance core count in this generation. Intel has a lot of education and software to take care of before the release.
     

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