Where did the traders go?

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  1. TomB16

    TomB16 Well-Known Member

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    When I got here, I was the only one who talked about long term investing. Now, it seems like the traders are all gone.

    Any thoughts on what happened to those people and discussions? I kind of miss it.
     
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  2. T0rm3nted

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    People get busy, some get banned, and some just lose interest as they probably feel they provide more insight than they receive. Just a hunch.
     
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  3. StockJock-e

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    Active trading tends to require faster chatting, so its mostly on discord, this is the r/investing discord with a more active trader base.

    https://discord.gg/FW58RSC
     
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  4. TomB16

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    Bunch of traders...
     
  5. bearmarketcrash

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    ...and also let's be honest here, but the market (at least if we're just strictly speaking of the majors here) has been super choppy of late, and to be frank, it's been like this pretty much all year. almost the complete opposite of last year's action lol. there's just not really a whole heck of a lot to talk about (for the exception of maybe those fast moving ape meme stonks, which i personally stay away 100%). it's been largely a sideways, range bound market.

    i think if/when we ever see a nice pick up in volatility (maybe this week was a start?), it will bring about some more discussions, members, and posts to the board, as trading ops present themselves, and people can chime in and talk about them. but i'll be super duper honest, it's been kinda hard finding good trades in this choppy environment.

    hoping some vol will creep into the market soon, but not sure if we'll get that, absent something totally and completely out of left field that would surprise everyone and their aunts (aka, the "black swan"). also, we are entering what is historically a pretty mundane period for the market (aka, the "summer doldrums"). aside from maybe the coming earnings season, and maybe the monthly jobs and inflation data, just don't think we'll get out of this chop fest anytime soon yet at least.

    i'm personally eyeing August though, that's when we'll get the Fed's Jackson Hole event. i think that could be a some big interest if the inflation #'s keep coming in fairly hot. we'll see.

    but otherwise, i'm largely thinking a boring summer ahead...barring some black swan event. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    anyway, that's just my 2c on the matter haha. thx for hearing me out. ;p
     
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  6. QuestSolver

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    What Is Quadruple Witching?
    Quadruple witching refers to a date on which stock index futures, stock index options, stock options, and single stock futures expire simultaneously. While stock options contracts and index options expire on the third Friday of every month, all four asset classes expire simultaneously on the third Friday of March, June, September, and December.
    Quadruple witching is similar to the triple witching dates, when three out of the four markets expire at the same time, or double witching, when two markets out of the four markets expire at the same time.
    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    Quadruple witching refers to a date on which derivatives of stock index futures, stock index options, stock options, and single stock futures expire simultaneously.
    While it may result in increased volume and arbitrage opportunities, quadruple witching does not necessarily translate to increased volatility in the markets.
    Quadruple witching days witness heavy trading volume, in part, due to the offsetting of existing futures and options contracts that are profitable. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quadruplewitching.asp
     
  7. WXYZ

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    WELL......personally.....I hope we get back to having a very active trading component to this board......as well as any other sort of investing. It makes for a good healthy site. BUT...I learned a long time ago on message boards....people come and go....and....whoever the active people are at any moment...they set the tone of the board. Boards evolve over time. That is just how it is.

    AND....life happens.....work, kids, vacation, etc, etc. They will be back....or others will come.
     
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  8. TomB16

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    Where is Sarah Michelle Gellar when we need her?


    I did not mean to tie a rock to your post and throw it in the lake. Thank you for the interesting content. I'm just bored and trying to amuse myself.
     
  9. rg7803

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    We have lots of reasons, some already written here.
    Main one (my guess) is that most people that get interested in finantial markets think that markets will be their holly grail to good fortune in fast forward mode. So ... they became traders.
    New traders normally have two problems: small accounts and even smaller market knowledge. Result: a big chunk of them (+80%) are kicked-off in less than a year.
    Others survive, but learn a big lesson: markets rewards the patient ones, and punishes heavily the ansious ones. So, some of them, became investors.
    I started trading during finantial meltdown in 2007/8. Remenber doing epic trades (then) after SP500 hiting 666 mark.
    Around that period (a little later maybe) I found HSM, I think. I tried several methods, read a few dozens of books and manuals, and took me thowsands (literally) of hours and heavy losses ($) to became a reasonable and consistent trader.
    If I had began as an investor I would have paid a ligher price: less grey hair, more sleeping hours, more free time, and possibly better results. Maybe no so many new friends, markets related.
    Today I found a balance, I am not 30 yo anymore!
    I still trade, not so heavily, I have an account just for that (I do mainly swing trading, or even short frames), but remaining ones are finantial instruments that I hold "for ever" and monitor just on weekly basis.
     
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  10. Heena khan

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    After the pandemic, lots of traders have lost their capital and also their other source of income, which could be also the reason why there are fewer traders in the Forex Market.
     
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  11. rg7803

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    not necessarily
    capital will grow in time due to your savings, capital own gains etc
    in LTCM the key is to have a strategy and ... patiente!
     
  12. Stockman2015

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    I believe some of the traders are active on chat rooms like discord and some are in telegram. But most of them are in Reddit
     

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